Overeem over paardenvlees en Lesnar

[d4nd3l10n]

MMANews.com spoke with Alistair Overeem this weekend regarding his upcoming fight with Brett Rogers on May 14th at Strikeforce: Heavy Artillery and the Strikeforce heavyweight champion talked about one question that has lingered around him ever since he sprouted big muscles, is he on steroids?

“People will always speculate” says Overeem, “I will be tested just like anybody else and like I’ve said before I weighed 235lbs in no time when I did not have to cut weight. Gaining 10lbs a year by lifting weights isn’t a big problem. Before I would cut between 22lbs-26lbs to get to the 205lbs weight limit. It was crazy. Now that I can eat and do not have to cut anymore(with his move to heavyweight division) it was easy to put on the extra muscle weight. I feel great.”

Overeem will defend the title for the first time since he won it in November of 2007 and according to the Rogers camp Overeem will go through strict drug testing prior to the bout to ensure performance enhancing drugs will not come into play but that doesn’t faze Overeem.

“People are just jealous.”

“The Demolition Man” also wonders why he catches so much heat from critics and fans over his size when there are others just as big or bigger.

“I don’t see or hear any of these types of accusations towards Brock Lesnar yet he is even bigger than I am. They can test me all they want. I’ll be in the states soon and I will prove everyone wrong.”

Another of Overeem’s critics has been Fedor Emelianenko’s manager, Vadim Finkelstein who has accused him of being a “steroid bully” but according to Overeem that air has been cleared.

“Vadim has apologized to me for his remarks and stated that M-1 would agree with the athletic commission rules and testing and they do not want me to do all the extra tests. Sounds promising (for a Fedor fight).”

[SOURCE] (http://www.mmanews.com/news/87933)

[Chico]

gast is wel ongemakkelijk groot geworden... hij beweegt niet zo soepel meer vindt ik..

moet ie zelf weten natuurlijk.. maar toch..

[chief108]

vind het ook niet eens zo belangrijk
laat hem nou maar gewoon voor het eerst een keer zijn titel verdedigen
da's een stuk belangrijker

“The Demolition Man” also wonders why he catches so much heat from critics and fans over his size
:slap:

[d4nd3l10n]

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[Kebal]

ja je kan er over praten en lachen, voor de rest zijn er idd genoeg die ook veel groeien dus maakt me eigenlijk niet veel uit. Zolang het testen en alles toch altijd onduidelijk blijft.... Verder weet ik ook te weinig van dat spul

enige wat ik kan zeggen is ga nou vechten man (in de ring), wil hem gewoon aan het werk zien tegen een topper, als hij echt zo kan huishouden als in de k1 is dat alleen maar beter

[chief108]

Kebal = correct

ik ga er gemakshalve gewoon vanuit dat minstens 85% van alle topsporters gebruiken (ook buiten de vechtelarij)
en dat de paar die gepakt worden gewoon een domme arts/ pech hebben gehad

[snip83]

Misschien dat er na 2,5 jaar met de juiste middelen het èèn en ander uit zijn systeem is

[Kebal]

arme Barnett

[Kebal]

ben trouwens geen expert maar als ik het hier zie valt het wel mee toch, aan de andere kant is Barnett dan weer betrapt maar die lijkt er niet afgetrainder op te worden

http://cdn.cagepotato.com/www/sites/default/files/UBEREEM.jpg

pic is trouwens weer onderdeel van de cagepotato Overeem soap
http://www.cagepotato.com/overeem-balks-steroid-allegations-points-finger-lesnar

[Kingster]

Hopelijk zijn de visa`s in orde...

Ben ook echt benieuwd wat het gaat worden tegen rogers.

[sikkwittet]

overeem moet gewoon winnen punt uit

[blackadder]

Ik hoop dat ie Rogers arm eraf rukt en als asbak mee naar huis neemt. Speciaal voor die debiel Greenman.

[FOCUS]

ach,
zolang iedereen maar aan de roids zit, is het toch nog n eerlijke partij

lijkt me wel kut, als je jezelf elke keer weer moet verdedigen tegen terechte aantijgingen :laugh:

[Socra]

lijkt me wel kut, als je jezelf elke keer weer moet verdedigen tegen terechte aantijgingen :laugh:

:laugh:

[Flamingo]

lol. Ik ben de aantijgingen zelfs beu, en ze zijn niet eens aan mij gericht :D. Ze blijven maar over ali janken die kutamerikanen, kijk eens naar je eigen HW divisie zou ik zeggen, zoveel gasten al gepakt, en ieder jaar trekken ze weer een paar nog grotere hws uit een schuur ergens.

[sikkwittet]

ja true that roze vogel
das allemaal waar

[chief108]

yup

[Kebal]

tja vind het ook wel genoeg hoor, wil gewoon partijen zien, in japland deden ze niet altijd moeilijk maar daar werd ooit wel gewoon geknokt

Alistair Overeem Might as Well Get Used to Steroid Questions

Listening to Alistair Overeem explain how he went from string bean to mountain of muscle in just a few years, I'm reminded of the days when Hulk Hogan used to implore us kids to say our prayers and take our vitamins.

Hard work, good nutrition, some luck in the genetic lottery. It seemed simple enough. Years later we found out what was actually in the Hulkster's vitamins, and maybe that's when those of us of a certain generation first learned to be such cynics about pro athletes and performance-enhancing drugs.

There's a couple of reasons why Overeem – who has never, as far as we know, failed a drug test – has been dogged by steroid allegations in recent years. For one, he's been conspicuously absent from the MMA scene in the U.S., where fighters are tested, while at the same time competing at a frantic pace in Japan, where the substances in a fighter's bloodstream are his business and no one else's.

Over the same period of time he's grown into a life-size action figure, packing on at least thirty pounds of muscle onto a frame that was once more Olive Oyl than Bluto. Now he has a chest you could show a movie on and shoulders that seem to come out of his ears. His neck is probably in there somewhere, but you'd need an x-ray to find it.

Overeem does his best to brush off the accusations, attributing his rapid growth to weight training, a diet heavy in protein-rich horse meat, and a move up in weight classes. The way he tells it, once he no longer had to cut weight to make 205 pounds, his muscles could finally run free.

Only instead of just running, they rampaged. They grew muscles of their own. They started whole new colonies of muscles, each with duly elected leaders to represent them at annual muscle summits.

What's interesting is, the last time Overeem fought as a heavyweight in Strikeforce, he weighed in at 224 pounds. That was back in 2007, when he first claimed the title with a victory over Paul Buentello. By then he was already a full-time heavyweight. No cutting weight. No starving himself to get down to 205. He looked solid, though not freakish.

Two and a half years later, he clocks in somewhere in the 250-pound range.

Is that, in and of itself, evidence that he's been ingesting something more potent than horse steaks? Not necessarily. The guy's only 29, after all. It's not unreasonable to think that he might have packed on the weight with gym time and a sound diet. For all we know, his life up until now could have been a long, painful struggle as a 255-pound man trapped in a 224-pound weakling's body. I think I saw an Oprah on that once.

Next weekend Overeem finally returns to the U.S. to defend his title, and he's said in recent interviews that he's looking forward to testing clean and proving his accusers wrong. Too bad it doesn't work that way.

Try all you want, but you can't prove a negative, especially when steroids are the issue. Passing a drug test won't prove to skeptics that he's clean; it will only prove that he can pass one drug test with months worth of prior notice.

But this isn't just Overeem's problem. Certainly, his physique explosion doesn't help, but really, this is about the modern sports fan. Their trust has been abused so many times, there's no innocence left to lose. Steroid accusations are to pro athletes what sex scandals are to politicians: the public is more likely to assume guilt than innocence.

Is it fair? Not really, but it's a defense mechanism. Fans have been burned too many times, listened to too many indignant denials that turned out to be stellar acting jobs.

Overeem wants to know why he has to answer these questions and Brock Lesnar, who is even bulkier, doesn't. Apparently he hasn't seen the episode of ESPN's "E:60" where Lesnar tears off his microphone and storms out when the issue is gently raised.

That's one way to deal with it. Then, instead of asking you about steroids, people will just whisper about it behind your back. Instead of wondering, they'll simply assume.

Maybe the best thing Overeem can do is to continue showing up to fights with the proportions of a cartoon superhero – especially when he knows he's about to be tested – and get as many clean drug tests as possible under his belt without sacrificing any size.

Will it placate the fans? Probably not. But the only alternative is growing a thicker skin.
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[Kebal]

nog een positiever verhaal op headkicklegend

A Different Perspective on Overeem
Over the past months, much has been written on Alistair Overeem. Sadly, while there's no shortage of Overeem articles out there, there's something about the Demolition Man that makes normally sound people become irrational. As a result, almost every Overeem story comes down to one of two things: he's ducking people, or he's on steroids. Sometimes both. The problem with this approach is that it focuses on the sensational and fails to address Overeem as, you know, an actual FIGHTER. Which is a shame, because there is much worthwhile to discuss about Overeem the fighter. So, in the hopes of setting aside any more steroid talk, let's take a look at exactly what you can expect from Overeem's return to America soil on May 15. And we'll start with this:

Alistair Overeem is now one of the best, if not THE best, Heavyweight strikers currently in MMA.

Before getting out the torches, let's look rationally at Overeem's recent career. Most MMA fans like to harp on his less than stellar opposition in recent MMA fights, and understandably so - after all, this is the sport he is more known for, this is the sport he is returning to, and this is the sport more fans follow. And it's true that his 2009 MMA challenges have been less than inspired. But to focus solely on his recent MMA history is to ignore what makes Overeem so dangerous - his K-1 record.

After a pair of random, smaller K-1 fights in 2001 and 2004, Overeem made his K-1 return at Dynamite 2008. Brought in as a Dream representative in the MMA v. K-1 themed show, Overeem had the unenviable task of taking on K-1's #2 fighter and KO expert Badr Hari. In 2 minutes, Overeem managed to shock the kickboxing world and knock Hari out. Beginner's luck, right - maybe Hari underestimated him?

From there, Overeem moved up to a main event fight with then champion Remy Bonjasky. Overeem stayed close to Bonjasky the entire fight until being dropped in the 3rd and losing a close decision that a lot of people felt he should have won. Still, there were excuses - Remy wasn't himself, was injured, etc. It was the next fight that seemed to really silence critics, as Overeem easily defeated the legendary Peter Aerts (ranked #3 at the time), ending Aerts's epic 16 year run as a Grand Prix participant. He followed that up with a brutal KO of Ewerton Teixeira (#7 at the time), a loss to Hari (#2) and a win over Dzevad Poturak (#25). This is a huge run of wins, but they mean little to the MMA fan as these are just names with no real significance. So, to put it into perspective, let's look at the equivalent MMA HW fighters using the SBN Consensus rankings.

According to the current rankings, this would be like a fighter coming into the UFC and, in essentially his debut, knocking out Brock Lesnar in one round, following that up with a close, controversial decision loss to Fedor, then defeating Carwin and Big Nog before losing to Brock, and finally beating Stefan Struve to rebound from that loss. I think we can all agree that such a resume would be pretty impressive.

The obvious counter-point to this argument is that Overeem's big wins have come in K-1, and kickboxing and MMA are two different sports because of the ground game. This is true, and yet, if your opponent does not do the ground game, are they really that different? And Brett Rogers does not do the ground game. On May 15 Overeem will face a man who is, essentially, a pure stand-up fighter. The exact skills Overeem used to rise to the top of K-1 will be in use here. When he faces a fighter like Werdum or Fedor, the difference between MMA and kickboxing will become more clear, but against Rogers (or Arlovski down the road) it remains, in many ways, a kickboxing fight.

So what makes Overeem such a feared kickboxer? Three things:

1. Power. This can not be stressed enough. Overeem has developed brutal knock-out power, which he has dispalyed in defeating Teixeira, Fujita, and Poturak, all from nasty knees. And this power is not limited to his strikes - Overeem can throw his opponents around with little trouble. Rogers's size will make him tough to ragdoll, but once Overeem grabs him, it may be hard for Rogers to get away.

2. Accuracy. This is an oft-overlooked part of striking in the MMA game, but one of Overeem's strong points is his ability to connect perfectly with that KO shot. He doesn't throw tons of strikes, hoping one connects - instead he grabs his opponent, lines up, and hits the one strike that takes them out. This is a hugely important skill, and is very reminiscent of, dare I say, Fedor.

3. Tough chin. In all his recent K-1 fights, Overeem has only been stopped by Hari and knocked down once by Bonjasky, and in neither of those fights was he truly out of it (the Hari stoppage was due to being knocked down twice in a round, not being unable to answer the 10 count). He's been in with tough strikers, taken their best, and has not been KO'd. If Rogers connects with his heavy hands, he'll definitely test that chin, but don't expect Overeem to go down easily.

Some MMA fans eagerly look forward to Overeem losing, or failing a drug test and proving them right. But what they should be looking forward to is one of the best HW strikers on the planet making his return to the US and to top 10 MMA competition. Anyone who looks at the Overeem who fought at LHW, or his recent MMA opponents, and decides that he is all hype with no backing is sorely overlooking what makes this man so dangerous - and such a welcome part of the Strikeforce roster.

[chief108]

da's wel een beter bericht idd...

mag dat liever lezen als al die thrash talk en speculaties over en weer...

[Khalil]

da's wel een beter bericht idd...

mag dat liever lezen als al die thrash talk en speculaties over en weer...


mag wat mij betreft iets minder zoet, maar natuurlijk heeft ie skills.

[chief108]

ach ja...
punt is: het gaat meestal helemaal niet meer over skills oid...
nee...
poppetje A schreeuwt dit
poppetje B schreeuwt dat
publiek van site A denkt dit
publiek van site B denkt dat
etc etc etc etc

en Ali heeft gewoon de pech dat de aanpak van zijn manager er 1tje is die bijzonder onsympathiek is
/understatement

[Khalil]

in tijd dat 2h2h nog roeleerde, was je blij als overeem op de mm stond.
ergens is hij de connectie verloren met het nedrlands publiek, en inderdaad die ene mannetje heeft zich zo voor lul gezet dat ik in ieder geval al zijn vechters graag zie verliezen.

want als je eerlijk bent zitten er veel goede vechters in zijn stal, althans zijn stal, ben bang als het zo doorgaat, Ron zich voor de 2e keer zichzelf gaat aangeven.

[Flamingo]

lol, ron die BB in zijn eigen sprookjesbos begraaft :)

[chief108]

da's wel een mooie film denk ik :)